Episode 9
EP 102 The Systems of Creation
As we evolve out of outdated systems of ownership and control, we must operate with what is to generate what is to come. So how do we move while we live under the weight of a system that doesn't serve us?
We Create, as Creation causes manifestation of highest potential. We create the Universe we wish to inhabit, using the working ingredients of the system in which we reside. And while we cook, we communicate. This is the path. Join Brother Amin Muhammad and Brother Adam X as dive into Art and Architecture, building the real life Shire, rising above emotions into the thinking of God.
The Gems:
- Listeners are encouraged to embrace the challenges of life, recognizing that unity and collaboration are essential for overcoming adversity.
- The conversation highlights the significance of healing practices, such as acupuncture and community support, in enhancing personal well-being and resilience.
- Art and creativity are presented as vital components in building a harmonious and constructive community, fostering a sense of belonging and purpose.
- The hosts reflect on the necessity of establishing systems to support sustainable efforts, particularly in land development and community building.
- The dialogue promotes a proactive approach to life's challenges, urging individuals to rise above their emotions and focus on constructive actions.
Transcript
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Speaker A: th,: Speaker A:Something like him, soldier.
Speaker B:I like him.
Speaker B:Smile, sir.
Speaker A:Back.
Speaker A:It's been a couple weeks.
Speaker B:Yes, it has been.
Speaker A:Busy beavers.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:Communicating, doing the work, planning, experiencing the.
Speaker A:The manifestation of walking, talking, unity.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And all that comes with.
Speaker A:This is what we signed up for, sir.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And when I'm feeling down, I just remember it was me and you in the shark pit, in the ring with the bull.
Speaker A:Ain't nobody else in there but me and you in a whole stadium.
Speaker A:And we was happy to be there.
Speaker B:I mean, we've been saying it from the beginning.
Speaker B:We knew, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is life.
Speaker B:This is it.
Speaker A:This is what it is.
Speaker A:This is the war, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But we were happy because we knew.
Speaker A:We knew and know who backs us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we had no fear.
Speaker A:But now we're just in the ring and the bull's spicy.
Speaker A:But there's no reason why we can't have fun with it, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's what I'm getting from doing this level of work is smile through it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Have fun.
Speaker B:And remember to take out some time to go visit the land, get a recharge.
Speaker A:We have the formula right.
Speaker A:Healing's embedded in how we move.
Speaker A:We have land to go do that.
Speaker A:We communicate consistently and we understand the necessity of self healing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that in and of itself is carrying us through.
Speaker B:Today in particular.
Speaker B:I'm feeling a little all over the place, though.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I buried another one of my friends.
Speaker A:Let's open up in prayer.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:But I feel you, sir.
Speaker A:Bismillahirrahmanirrahim Alhamdulillah Rabil Alameen Arachman.
Speaker A:Hola.
Speaker A:Thank you for bringing us here.
Speaker A:Guide this conversation.
Speaker A:Lighten our load.
Speaker A:Have us speak light into these microphones and guide our people, people to truth, healing and prosperity.
Speaker A:Guide this conversation.
Speaker A:Have us speak on the topics you would like us to speak upon.
Speaker A:As you use us to the maximum stent to build thy kingdom.
Speaker A:We love and serve you alone.
Speaker A:I mean, you were Saying, sir.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, my process for grieving is not a standard process.
Speaker B:I think most people like to, like, feel sad as they.
Speaker B:They go into grief.
Speaker B:I. I like to celebrate that person.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I think back on the happy things and the things that, you know, that person meant to me and how that person affected my life.
Speaker A:Who we talking about?
Speaker A:Brother.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Brother Rashad.
Speaker A:But it's also.
Speaker A:This is our first episode since.
Speaker A:This is our first episode since Mother Khadijah passed.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that too.
Speaker A:So I don't think it's a coincidence that you're bringing up that.
Speaker A:Because that's a process as well.
Speaker B:It's heavy in there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Heaviness.
Speaker A:But it's also representative of the time in which we live.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anyway, what's brother's name?
Speaker B:Brother Rashad.
Speaker A:Yeah, Brother Rashad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Son of whom.
Speaker B:I don't remember his father's name.
Speaker B:I mean, me, him and his brother and his sisters, that we was all cool.
Speaker B:But Brother Ahmad is his brother, and they were, like.
Speaker B:When we were growing up, they were like our captain and minister.
Speaker B:They, like, came out out of nowhere and just kind of, like, took over and was, like, running the show.
Speaker B:And we was all playing at captain and minister before they got here, but they was actually old enough to, like, hold it down, so.
Speaker A:So he's older than you?
Speaker B:Yeah, they're.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They're just a little bit.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You know, I think a year.
Speaker B:So I think maybe Rashad might be exactly my age.
Speaker B:Ahmad was a little bit older, and they just.
Speaker B:They just had this thing where they was just working together and making us move, and we was out pushing.
Speaker B:We was going hard, you know?
Speaker A:So they were nation babies.
Speaker B:I don't know if they were nation babies.
Speaker B:That's a good question.
Speaker B:I should.
Speaker B:I should ask them.
Speaker B:But they were in the nation since we was.
Speaker B:At least since we was all teens.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, brother, Brother Ahmad, he's still around.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's, you know, ten toes down.
Speaker B:Brother Rashad.
Speaker A:Is he acting?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ahmad.
Speaker B:Brother Ahmad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's not Los Angeles right now, but he is from la.
Speaker B:He'd be in Leimert park all the time, too.
Speaker B:You see him?
Speaker A:He's out of 27.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Brother Ahmad, he's older than you.
Speaker A:He's 40s.
Speaker B:He's got to be.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's got to be a little bit older than me.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So I've probably seen him before.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Even if it was just at Leimer park, you've seen him.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think he goes to the Ie Moss or something right now.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was.
Speaker B:Yeah, we attended the funeral today.
Speaker B:It was a good ceremony.
Speaker B:Good turnout.
Speaker A:Is it out nigh, or was it.
Speaker B:No, they had it in Carson.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker B:I think his family probably stays off this side or something.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was a good ceremony.
Speaker B:It was a good day.
Speaker B:You know, I had some good words for him, and it lifted his spirits.
Speaker B:We got a, you know.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker B:Embrace his brother.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, you know, it just is a tragic ending.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I want to get on.
Speaker B:It was unexpected.
Speaker A:Understood.
Speaker B:You know, and so it's.
Speaker B:It's one of those things where even thinking on the positivity and understanding, it just.
Speaker B:It helps me understand that my responsibility is real.
Speaker B:And I know that I'm not supposed to take on this idea that I'm supposed to save everybody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, part of me is absolutely, like, you can't be responsible for everybody.
Speaker B:But there's a part of me that's just like, everybody, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, so I, like.
Speaker B:I don't want to leave nobody behind.
Speaker B:I got to try to.
Speaker A:We have to have that attitude.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's like, you know, hearing that we lost another one just brings it to the forefront of how vital the work is and how, you know, we think we got time, and we might not have time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But, you know, the work still got to get done.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:So what'd you learn about grief?
Speaker A:Because you're talking about.
Speaker A:You process grief different or something.
Speaker B:No, I just.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker B:I think as Muslims, we're supposed to celebrate.
Speaker A:Oh, that's right.
Speaker B:That's easier said than done.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, like, when I think about grief, it makes me want to feel sad, and I fight.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Actively.
Speaker B:It's like, I'm not gonna.
Speaker B:Like, I feel like it's almost dishonorable to be sad about somebody lost somebody that you lost.
Speaker B:It's like, honor them by celebrating them while they live.
Speaker B:While they live.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I like that.
Speaker A:And it makes us appreciate our.
Speaker A:Each other.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And not take each other for granted.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And I do think that's.
Speaker A:That attitude is why we.
Speaker A:We don't shy away from telling you that we love each other.
Speaker A:No, I told brothers, love you.
Speaker A:Love you.
Speaker A:Just very standard practice and healthy that way.
Speaker A:When they pass, it's like, you know what?
Speaker A:I appreciated them while they were here.
Speaker B:Mm.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I appreciated them being here.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:There's power in not taking individuals for granted.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I do think These, you know, people close to us passing with their friends, whether they're the wife of the minister, it reminds us of, like, okay, let's give them the respect and reverence they deserve while.
Speaker A:While they're with us and appreciate that.
Speaker A:And it's making me, you know, it reference to, you know, the minister.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, his second half departed.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:She left.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, but even, like, the part where, like.
Speaker B:Like when you say, while they're with us, it says in the Quran, think not of those who have passed.
Speaker B:Those that are believers who have passed as dead.
Speaker B:They are not.
Speaker B:But you don't understand.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so, like, the reason why I feel like it's almost dishonorable to.
Speaker B:To be sad about losing them is because if they're still alive and still very active on a different wavelength or spiritual realm, something that we don't understand.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:What would they want us to be doing?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Would they want us to be sitting here endlessly crying and grieving, or would they want us to be celebrating the, you know, the greatness of their lives?
Speaker B:You know, I don't want nobody be sad about me when I go.
Speaker B:I want.
Speaker B:I would rather people be happy and.
Speaker A:Be inspired by your life.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I do think that I did catch that.
Speaker A:And, like, the beautiful thing about Mother Khadijah was that was the living, walking example of loyal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ride or die.
Speaker A:Like I am with my husband, and I'm going to hold my family together.
Speaker A:She was that.
Speaker A:She was a mother.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:She was a grandmother.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was like her post.
Speaker A:And I, you know, I don't have a personal relationship with their family, but I could just see from afar, like, oh, that's a.
Speaker A:That's a black grandma right there.
Speaker A:Without a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker A:Like, that's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's her post.
Speaker A:And a queen and a queen.
Speaker B:If we are a nation, you know, that's real, bro.
Speaker A:Queen departed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what does that say about, like, the times we're in, you know, where we're.
Speaker A:Where we're heading, and I could just say from our experience is like, you know, things are.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna say they're getting heavier, but they're just.
Speaker A:They're getting different.
Speaker A:They're getting more heating up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's getting, like, oh, it's getting real out here.
Speaker B:The stakes are definitely getting higher and stronger and all of that.
Speaker A:The stakes are getting up, I guess the volatility is.
Speaker A:Is increasing, you know, And I try not to like.
Speaker A:And, you know, I'm being very careful not to put negative labels on it.
Speaker A:It's just getting volatile.
Speaker A:Yeah, volatile, heavy, emotional.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it, I'm not, like, it doesn't perturb me.
Speaker A:And that's why I, I appreciate the example that the minister is.
Speaker A:Because no matter what we're going through, like, we look at him and be like, what we going through ain't compared to what he gone through.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, he would look at what we're going through and he's like, this is what it is, bro.
Speaker B:Figure that out.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You're just gonna blow up everything because you thought how you thought it was gonna go, ain't gonna go.
Speaker A:Because you're dealing with your people.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:He would say, no, y' all gotta figure that out.
Speaker A:That's your job.
Speaker A:That's your job.
Speaker A:Is that for you?
Speaker A:Why are you talking to me?
Speaker A:You've seen what I did.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I started with a newspaper in my basement.
Speaker A:Me and my wife broke as hell.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Look what that became.
Speaker A:What is your excuse?
Speaker A:People are mad at you.
Speaker A:People don't like you.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah, so what?
Speaker A:Yeah, take plenty.
Speaker B:That part.
Speaker A:That's what they said, take plenty.
Speaker A:Messenger said that.
Speaker A:The minister says that.
Speaker A:Take plenty.
Speaker A:And if we can't take it, we're in the wrong line of business.
Speaker B:That's a fact.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, So I, you know, I'm not gonna.
Speaker A:One thing I'm getting better at is being able to take it and not allowing the whatever's thrown at me or people feeling a certain way towards me.
Speaker A:Get me off my post.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, yeah, we got a, A God is one who moves with intention.
Speaker B:And we're taught to rise above emotions into the thinking of God.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:So, you know, I, I, I, I'm not gonna say I don't feel it because I have to be aware of it.
Speaker B:No, it doesn't say, yeah, don't have feelings.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It says, rise above your feelings.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Into the thinking of God.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Process.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I could have, I'm like, okay.
Speaker A:And I understand where they're coming from.
Speaker A:From both sides.
Speaker A:From people coming at me and how I'm processing and how is that making me feel?
Speaker A:Then I'm able to literally rise above all of that.
Speaker A:Action, reaction, into, okay, what is the way forward?
Speaker A:That it's in alignment with my vision.
Speaker A:And 10 times out of 10, that answer is going to be unity.
Speaker A:What can you do that is most in alignment with unifying our people for the greater good?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And try not to get exhausted in the process.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:It is tiring, but extremely tired.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's satisfactory tiring.
Speaker A:It's like the type of tire we get when we go to the land and we just sleep.
Speaker B:I remember when I was younger, we used to get banged on, like, every day, and it sucks.
Speaker B:And it.
Speaker A:It's like, for me, not for you.
Speaker B:From the perspective of somebody who's here to try to save them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It's like, what grades, like, did it.
Speaker A:Was it, like, the most hectic?
Speaker A:I'm curious, like, what was.
Speaker A:When does it start?
Speaker A:Like, for real?
Speaker A:When do you pray?
Speaker B:Probably like, 12, 13.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:12, 13.
Speaker B:Walking to go play basketball at the court all the way up through high school.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:You know, like, consistently.
Speaker B:Consistently.
Speaker B:I mean, like, you come out the house, you get banged on.
Speaker B:If you don't want to get banged on, don't come out the house.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You know, and.
Speaker B:You know, and it's.
Speaker B:Every couple of blocks, it's a different group.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's like a gauntlet.
Speaker B:I mean, and it's like, knowing that our job is to save them, it gets you.
Speaker B:It wears down your resistance to the point where we decided to become a gang, started calling ourselves MTs well, J coined the term, and we turned it into a gang.
Speaker A:MTS MAS 27.
Speaker B:And it was just like, I got tired of them approaching me and me having nothing to say back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it was like, MTS Gave me this feeling of, like, something to say back.
Speaker B:Nah, mas 27.
Speaker B:I don't bang.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:And it's like, that was the.
Speaker A:That was the.
Speaker B:It gave us just a little bit of S on my chest.
Speaker B:I needed something.
Speaker B:Cause, like, the whole time.
Speaker B:I don't bang.
Speaker B:It feels like a.
Speaker B:Like a. I don't know.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:It feels like a weaker position.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker B:You know, but once we started coming back at them, mas 27, like, it felt different.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You know, did it work?
Speaker B:It worked too good.
Speaker B:We turned into.
Speaker A:That's where I was going.
Speaker B:It's problematic, but it's like.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:That's what happens when they wear down your resistance distance.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Especially if you don't have enough maturity to be able to, like, understand.
Speaker B:Like, I think one of the best ways that I've come up with to combat the frustration is the whole idea of rising above emotions into the thinking guy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I took it literally.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I like.
Speaker B:I, like, rise above myself and start to look down at Myself from a bird's eye view.
Speaker B:So I'm not affected by the things that I'm affected by.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:From that spiritual perspective, it's like I feel bad for him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, he gotta deal with it.
Speaker B:I've reason above it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So how do we.
Speaker A:What could we tell people who don't have that vantage point yet, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the question.
Speaker A:Tough stuff.
Speaker A:And I think it does help me realizing that I'm dealing.
Speaker A:But we deal.
Speaker A:We're dealing with people who don't have that vantage point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:All they have is their emotions.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they don't have frustrations.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Dealing with our people.
Speaker A:Often valid.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everything is, you know, everyone's.
Speaker A:What I'm learning.
Speaker A:Everybody's right.
Speaker B:You know, me to a degree.
Speaker A:To themselves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everyone is right to themselves for sure.
Speaker A:Like without a shadow of a doubt, we're the rightest on the planet to ourselves.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And everybody else has wronged us.
Speaker A:So anyone goes against your concept of what is right and it's very right to you, you put them in the wrong category.
Speaker A:And at best.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:At worst, you want to destroy the wrong category because it's not in alignment with your right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So if you.
Speaker A:And I'm trying to just give game to people who haven't had developed that vantage point yet of.
Speaker A:Start realizing and start moving from the.
Speaker A:The attitude and viewpoint that the person you're mad at is to themselves just as right as you think you are.
Speaker B:Perspective.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Put yourself in their shoes.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Try to put yourself in the shoes and realize.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're feeling all these feelings of being right and wanting to justify.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker A:They are too.
Speaker A:And they're just as right to themselves as you are to yourself.
Speaker B:And their mole hills have become mountains like yours.
Speaker A:And we have our people who are just walking mole hills ready to just clap back.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was out pushing in the food for less on Slauson.
Speaker A:Slauson by the swap meet on Sunday.
Speaker A:And there was just a woman like literally with the basket.
Speaker A:Not crazy, just like had something going on with her.
Speaker A:Mean, like she was like standing near the door looking at the customers checking out at the self checkout.
Speaker A:Mean mug and everybody just like looking for something.
Speaker A:And like a lot of them were just like looking at like, what is wrong with it?
Speaker A:They didn't engage people.
Speaker A:People understand like, oh, no, I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm not doing that.
Speaker A:Then there is this one brother and his.
Speaker A:In his wife and his baby and his son.
Speaker A:He couldn't help himself.
Speaker A:He Just had to.
Speaker A:Had a clap.
Speaker A:Had to be.
Speaker A:Had to just instigate.
Speaker B:What you looking at?
Speaker A:I, I missed.
Speaker A:I just came into the screaming, so I missed the first part.
Speaker A:But I already know what happens because he justified itself to me.
Speaker A:Me.
Speaker A:It was me and brother Devin because he was.
Speaker A:I love foi.
Speaker A:I was pushing.
Speaker A:And the first brother I see is like another brother.
Speaker A:He was.
Speaker A:He was just working security for Metro, but at the very groove with us.
Speaker A:So he's like the first person I saw.
Speaker A:So I'm like, all right, I'm doing the right thing.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:But so we dab each other up.
Speaker A:He went inside, and then I go back inside because I hear screaming, and Devin's right there watching it with security guards.
Speaker A:So I'm like, okay, let me be FOI and just make sure this escalate.
Speaker A:So point is, this brother took the invitation to start some.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, there's a woman.
Speaker A:And it's also like, bro, it's a woman.
Speaker A:Like, what are you doing?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I, I, I imagine that he would just like, what are you looking at?
Speaker A:Stop.
Speaker A:Stop looking at my family.
Speaker A:Stop looking at my girl.
Speaker B:Oh, he got triggered.
Speaker B:Absolutely trauma response.
Speaker A:He couldn't.
Speaker A:But he couldn't help himself.
Speaker B:Well, that's what a trigger is.
Speaker A:He couldn't help himself.
Speaker A:He's like, he's like cuz.
Speaker A:Everyone around him knew, like, the cuz, like, oh, she just.
Speaker A:No, we not going to.
Speaker A:We're not going to engage.
Speaker A:Do not engage.
Speaker A:Except for him.
Speaker B:It's an engram.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:All eggs are spoiled eggs at this point.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:This situation.
Speaker B:I know I've been here before.
Speaker B:Yeah, let me nip this in the bud before it becomes something worse.
Speaker A:That's not what the brother did.
Speaker A:He is like, I can't help it.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go poke the bear.
Speaker B:But he thought that poking the bear is the solution because he's traumatized.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:She's also traumatized.
Speaker A:And he was poking the bear because in his mind, it was the right thing to do.
Speaker A:In her mind, screaming back at him was the right thing to do.
Speaker A:They were both look very right at each other.
Speaker B:And they weren't even arguing with each other.
Speaker B:They were in Grams arguing with Ingrams.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And there was a wife.
Speaker A:There actually was arguing, too.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna.
Speaker A:They, they.
Speaker A:Once she, Once he started it, she's like, I'm gonna get me some of this too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because he probably gonna argue with her when he get home if she don't.
Speaker A:So they go and Then the whole time I'm watching the boy, he's sitting.
Speaker A:He's young enough to sit in the cart.
Speaker A:In the shopping cart.
Speaker A:So probably six years old, wide open eyes, just watching, learning.
Speaker A:This is how we get down.
Speaker B:Gaining triggers.
Speaker A:And me and Devin were just like, cycle continues.
Speaker A:Cycle continues.
Speaker A:That's our people.
Speaker A:The beautiful thing about it all is everybody got final calls made.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:Everyone got.
Speaker A:Everyone got to work.
Speaker A:They all took them, too.
Speaker A:And it was what I learned.
Speaker A:It's like homeboy was laughing after it.
Speaker A:She wasn't even that mad.
Speaker A:It was just like.
Speaker A:It's just like y' all were just.
Speaker B:Have you.
Speaker B:Have you performing?
Speaker A:No, I've seen, like, clips, but I have.
Speaker A:No, I've never been.
Speaker A:Never watched a show.
Speaker B:Must watch Boondocks.
Speaker A:Why and how is this relevant to.
Speaker B:Which is called a moment.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker B:And Boondocks has a very great episode about it.
Speaker A:It's hilarious.
Speaker B:Probably gonna have you splitting your stomach.
Speaker B:Like, it's the whole episode about moments like this.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And how they escalate such a nickel moment.
Speaker A:And everyone around it, like, knew I was like, oh, they want some this nigga moment.
Speaker A:Okay, let's just let them have their moment.
Speaker A:I'm gonna just weasel around them.
Speaker A:Just not.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna.
Speaker B:Can't believe you never watched Boondocks.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:No never, bro.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:It came on a Comedy Central Absolutely.
Speaker B:Necessary watch is an absolutely necessary watch.
Speaker A:Is.
Speaker A:Is it.
Speaker A:Is it written by black people?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Regina.
Speaker B:What's her name?
Speaker B:She's a great.
Speaker B:She's a great actor.
Speaker A:That's Uncle Ruckus.
Speaker B:She plays the boys.
Speaker A:But Uncle Ruckus.
Speaker A:Boondocks, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Gotcha Instinct.
Speaker B:Meaner is my favorite character.
Speaker A:Is that one of the boys?
Speaker B:That's the moments.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Stink.
Speaker B:Meaner is just this old man, and he just.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker B:So good,.
Speaker A:Man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now I.
Speaker A:It's already funny, cuz.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I. I know, bro.
Speaker A:I know myself.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Like, we all know know.
Speaker A:That's why when we see stuff like this, like, oh, there.
Speaker A:There we go again.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's not.
Speaker B:This is not new trauma.
Speaker A:No, bro.
Speaker B:We've been going through this for a long time.
Speaker A:Yes, sir, we have.
Speaker A:Yes, sir, we have.
Speaker A:So I think we were just giving counsel on the.
Speaker A:The advice you can give to people who don't have that viewpoint yet.
Speaker A:So what is it?
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Don't do that.
Speaker A:Don't poke the bear.
Speaker B:I'm giving.
Speaker B:Giving up on adults, I think.
Speaker A:Nah, I feel You.
Speaker B:I think that we get to the youth, leave the adults to minister Parker.
Speaker A:The Mark.
Speaker A:No real talk.
Speaker A:The Marquis strategy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Marquis has a point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Brother Marquis.
Speaker A:Shout out to brother Marquis, who has a boys to manhood program because he has realized that they are the future.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was lifted off my shoulders when he started that, because it was like, yeah, this needs to happen.
Speaker B:You know, I. I saw the need.
Speaker B:Everybody sees the need.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, like, he started, and I was all praises, Mark.
Speaker A:He started boys of manhood program.
Speaker A:Absolutely, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:And I was blessed to help him out a couple weeks, weekends ago, and my son was there, and I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker A:That's one way he's just focused on the youth.
Speaker A:Not to say that, you know, everyone else is chopped liver, but it's like, I think as men, you have to be tactical with how to address this problem.
Speaker A:And the older you get, the more set in your ways you are and.
Speaker B:The wiser counsel you need.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Like, we can teach them the basics now, and they'll get it, and it'll make sense because they've seen their parents doing.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All they know is, like, that's not working.
Speaker A:Y' all are just screaming.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I don't.
Speaker A:I'm uncomfortable, and I'm in fight or flight mode all the time.
Speaker A:So if there are brothers around me, like myself, you, Marquis, then I'm more willing to listen to y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:So I do think.
Speaker B:Not to mention the fact that they're building bonds with other brothers that as they grow, they'll solve problems together.
Speaker B:You know, it's like, even if this one didn't fully get the lesson, this one did.
Speaker B:And then steel, sharpen steel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, they'll become friends.
Speaker B:There will be friends for life.
Speaker B:You know, not all, but, you know, some of them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, if, in the best case scenario, most of them.
Speaker B:It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker B:That's what the brotherhood is for.
Speaker B:That's the way, you know, we were raised, you know, and it's like, that's part of what inspires me for the land, too, like creating spaces where they can get away from cities and experience adventures together, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That solidifies the brotherhood.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It makes them want to be like, you know, I actually had fun with this person.
Speaker B:I had a survival situation with this person.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and I'm just realizing I didn't have.
Speaker A:I had.
Speaker A:I had brothers, but I didn't have a brotherhood growing up, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I didn't have that Unifying theme of knowledge, of self to that is the glue of the brotherhood.
Speaker A:Like, no matter what, we know who we are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I'm now realizing, you know, I felt lonely growing up because I didn't have that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That wasn't like, I didn't have that backdrop.
Speaker A:I was just like, okay, I'm just out here in a world that is against me.
Speaker B:And that's the average black male experience.
Speaker A:People.
Speaker A:Nobody likes me.
Speaker A:People are from a child.
Speaker A:People are mean to me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And cops are holding their gun at me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:That's an experience that, like, you didn't necessarily grow up in a black neighborhood like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, no.
Speaker A:Did not.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But even growing up in a black neighborhood, the experience is the same.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is what?
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I feel lonely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You join a gang and think that, like, the gang is going to be your brotherhood, and it gives you a semblance of, like, togetherness, but you're watching your back against your fellow gang members the whole time.
Speaker B:I like, you know, I happen to be young enough to, like, see that and see that any in them, they was ready.
Speaker B:They was cracking jokes on each other, ready to fire on each other at any moment.
Speaker B:Like, that's.
Speaker B:You know, you don't trust them.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:They don't got your back.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:No, man.
Speaker A:You know, that's a false sense of security.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like, yeah, you got security from all of them, but you don't got security about the ones right next to you.
Speaker B:I guess it might be better than nothing, maybe.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's like, we.
Speaker A:We don't grow up feeling safe.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:We don't have any security, especially emotional security like that.
Speaker A:Not even close.
Speaker B:The first time I went on actual vacation to the Bahamas, my wife is like, you gotta calm down.
Speaker B:I was like, no, I don't.
Speaker A:Wait, you.
Speaker A:You didn't go to your first vacation till you were married?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, I've been places, but I never went, like, off out the country.
Speaker A:Like, oh, got you.
Speaker B:So, like, my first time going on a vacation.
Speaker B:Vacation where, like, this wasn't a.
Speaker B:A secondary idea.
Speaker B:Like, we didn't come out here for business, and now we're chilling.
Speaker B:You know, we went out there for vacation.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker B:And so, like, I didn't have no calm.
Speaker B:I'm on security.
Speaker B:Like, random Bahamut, Bahamians, Bahimians.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:These people, like, they trying to take advantage of us.
Speaker A:What did she.
Speaker A:What did she Say she just saw.
Speaker B:How serious I was the whole time.
Speaker B:How, like, I'm far from home, I ain't got no brotherhood with me.
Speaker B:Like, let my guard down for what?
Speaker B:Yeah, you know.
Speaker A:Huh.
Speaker B:Not only will, you know, can we come up missing right now, but, you know, in a other scenario, we could lose everything we got in order to get home.
Speaker A:So you were on.
Speaker A:You had no chill.
Speaker B:No chill.
Speaker B:I was like, you know, I. I.
Speaker A:Did it piss her off?
Speaker B:Yeah, a bit.
Speaker A:Good feedback.
Speaker B:You live and you learn.
Speaker A:No, absolutely.
Speaker B:Now I know how to be on security mode with a smile.
Speaker A:When did you.
Speaker A:When did you learn?
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:How long did it take?
Speaker A:Two more vacations until you learned that?
Speaker B:Probably.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'd say to it to an extent, I don't think I'll ever learn.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think that I'll be able to, like, put on a better smile, a more effective smile.
Speaker A:Well, I think it is possible to.
Speaker B:Be the only time I feel totally relaxed when I'm on the lap, I see it's mine and so I gotta make that beautiful.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker B:That needs to be the vacation spot.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Because I go to foreign places.
Speaker B:Like, maybe if I went to vacation.
Speaker A:What about Hawaii?
Speaker B:I'm still on security.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If I went to Hawaii with 20 of the brothers, maybe I'd be like, all right.
Speaker B:I could.
Speaker B:I could relax a little bit.
Speaker B:I know, you know, people are here, they got my back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But without that, it's like this is a real world we live in.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker A:Because I don't think it's.
Speaker A:I think it's possible to both, you know, be on general orders in full effect time and also be relaxed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or at peace.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Because I do think, you know, part of your.
Speaker A:Our qualities as a man requires us to be aware.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, so we got to have.
Speaker A:We can't be 100% chill out, especially in public.
Speaker A:Anywhere.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:You know, so.
Speaker A:But I do think you could still.
Speaker B:Put up a better mask.
Speaker A:And that's my own experience.
Speaker A:Things like because I'm.
Speaker A:And maybe because I've done start the healing process, but I'm pretty much like, I am aware, but I'm also at peace.
Speaker A:I've came to this like, they're not.
Speaker A:They're not against each other.
Speaker B:Now I've came to this realization that, like, as a man, I will never go on like a vacation.
Speaker B:Vacation is still work for me.
Speaker B:I'm still carrying bags.
Speaker B:I'm still making sure my wife is safe.
Speaker B:Making sure that we don't, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Overextend ourselves.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Making sure that I'm planning, you know, where we going to go eat, where we going to go do this, where we're going to, like, I'm.
Speaker B:That's work for me, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker A:Yeah, no.
Speaker B:I'm not complaining about it by any stretch of imagination, but it's like my vacation is going home.
Speaker B:Like, I need to make my home the most magical place.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Where I can actually just kick my feet up and relax.
Speaker A:Is it there?
Speaker A:Is that your home?
Speaker B:The land.
Speaker A:Oh, but I'm talking about your home right now.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Is the land.
Speaker B:I live in the hood.
Speaker B:This is helicopters and stray dogs and.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:Yeah, I get it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get it.
Speaker B:I. I have a. I have a semblance of.
Speaker B:Of relaxation, but I'm not at peace.
Speaker A:I get you.
Speaker B:You know, like I said, it's.
Speaker B:It's the land.
Speaker B:No, that's where I'm at peace.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You and I both.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To where, like, it puts me, like, into a state of tranquility.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Kind of like a.
Speaker B:Belonging.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I said it before.
Speaker A:Just like melt like a melting with the earth.
Speaker A:Like, I'm just.
Speaker A:Okay, I gotta do nothing now.
Speaker A:I'm just gonna just unplug.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker B:I've never.
Speaker B:I've never in my life experienced law enforcement walking up to me and me feeling a sense of entitlement.
Speaker A:Go on.
Speaker B:So, like, you know, border patrols down there, they got the.
Speaker B:The security down there with the AK47s, like, watching the wall and whatnot.
Speaker B:The extended case.
Speaker B:I've seen them in the car.
Speaker B:They're not pulling them out.
Speaker B:I'm clocking what they're doing.
Speaker B:Okay, but like, I got my pistols on me too.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Even if I don't got my pistols, you own my property.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What you doing down here, boy?
Speaker B:How can I.
Speaker B:How can I help you on my land?
Speaker B:What you want?
Speaker A:You know, but what.
Speaker A:Where does that come.
Speaker A:Where.
Speaker A:Where's the entitlement?
Speaker B:I just feel like in the.
Speaker B:In the city, like, it's Day territory.
Speaker B:This is Day turf.
Speaker A:Oh, I feel you.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes, sir, officer.
Speaker B:Why did you pull me over?
Speaker B:Or, you know, like.
Speaker A:Yeah, but we're.
Speaker A:Yes or no, sir Worth and we're on the land.
Speaker B:Do that too.
Speaker B:But I don't feel it.
Speaker B:I don't feel the same level of pressure.
Speaker B:They could call back up on me.
Speaker B:Like, it's all kind of.
Speaker A:That's very true.
Speaker B:Scenarios that could happen in the city.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, yeah.
Speaker A:There's no pressure.
Speaker A:It's more just like wild, wild west out there.
Speaker A:I love that feeling.
Speaker B:Like, I'm.
Speaker B:Like, when I'm in LA and I'm talking to a cop, I'm faking the smile, you know, when I'm on my land and I'm talking to a cop, the smile is genuine.
Speaker B:I feel it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like, you know, it's just different.
Speaker A:It is different.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:There's no fear.
Speaker A:Like, oh, okay.
Speaker B:I mean, it's not.
Speaker B:I wouldn't say it's fear either way.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, it's not fear.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:If.
Speaker B:If today's the day, I gotta go.
Speaker B:I'm ready to die.
Speaker A:It's a different inner.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a different interaction.
Speaker B:It's a different feeling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, it's almost like I wouldn't.
Speaker B:It's like, it's more anger when I'm in the city.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker B:It's like, leave me the alone.
Speaker B:But it's like, I also understand you have the right to.
Speaker B:With me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're in your jurisdiction and I'm, you know, suspicious.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:On my land.
Speaker B:I'm not suspicious.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm walking around shooting my pistol when I want to.
Speaker B:Like, I can walk around with my machete on my.
Speaker B:My leg.
Speaker B:I'm doing what I want to do on my property.
Speaker A:It's great.
Speaker A:And the guy came up, guys shooting guns.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What are you shooting?
Speaker A:That was awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was freedom.
Speaker A:I was like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:Yes, sir, we are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was like, that's what's up.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:All right, well, carry on.
Speaker B:And I don't even consider myself, like, a.
Speaker B:A gun toter.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not a gun carrier, but I do enjoy practicing with them, you know, it was.
Speaker B:I enjoyed it enough to buy my own.
Speaker B:Like, so, yeah, I'm licensed.
Speaker B:I'm legit.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And I'm on my property.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Having fun.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:I guess maybe because it's there, there's a respect for.
Speaker A:I don't know, maybe just land ownership out there.
Speaker A:I'm trying to think of, like, all the reasons why it's.
Speaker B:I think when you go to the middle of nowhere, everybody, like, understands.
Speaker B:Just don't fuck around.
Speaker A:Yeah, there is that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There is, like, kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That cowboy mentality is just like, don't around.
Speaker B:Why.
Speaker A:Why would you.
Speaker A:Don't.
Speaker B:In the city, the police absolutely like to.
Speaker B:With you.
Speaker A:And then, you know, on the count.
Speaker A:There's also a lot of going on in the city.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker B:So they're always on edge.
Speaker B:They're always, you know.
Speaker B:No, that's real hypersensitive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's nothing going on out there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I want to apologize to the guests for all the curses.
Speaker B:I'll be going off.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:There's peace out there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Peace that the cities don't have.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:So I think that's.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That's the main distinguishing characteristic is like, okay, well, yeah, there's a lack of noise.
Speaker B:We went out there and shot a whole podcast.
Speaker B:Like, we was in a studio.
Speaker A:It's beautiful.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was.
Speaker B:It was quiet in the background.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:It was a studio.
Speaker A:It's beautiful, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's powerful.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The scenery, you know, the background, like.
Speaker B:And then our background that they couldn't see was the mountain.
Speaker A:Like, that was the perfect.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was like the perfect ledge to have a podcast.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'd never even been on that ledge before that.
Speaker B:Just discovered it for the first time.
Speaker A:That day, you know, it was so dope.
Speaker B:There's so much undiscovered potential down there.
Speaker A:So much.
Speaker A:It's all undiscovered potential.
Speaker A:And it's, you know, that's.
Speaker A:That's what awaits us, is that, you know, and it's one thing to, you know, see it from afar, but I feel like we're accurate.
Speaker A:We're actually in it.
Speaker A:Not only do we go there once a month where we have active plant, we've developed a.
Speaker A:A scheme for what's going to happen on that land.
Speaker A:Like, there's something that we're actually walking in now.
Speaker B:I. I give myself false senses of recharge by daydreaming while being down there.
Speaker A:How is that false, then, if it works?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It just is.
Speaker B:I know it's not real.
Speaker B:It's like I'm drinking soda instead of water when I'm down there.
Speaker B:It's water.
Speaker A:Oh, I get it.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:So you think by daydreaming about it, it's not a real boost?
Speaker B:I know it's not because I'm not breathing fresh air.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm not in a tranquil environment.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I. I live in this space where I'm there all the time in different time zones.
Speaker B:So, like, sometimes I'm down there now where it's nothing down there, and then sometimes I'm down there where it's completely built and it's like it's lovely.
Speaker B:It's like I don't even know which one I like more.
Speaker B:Like, I get why that one is better because it allows me to do all the things that I want to do for all the people and help all the people.
Speaker B:But the tranquility that I get from the way it is right now, I'm good.
Speaker B:I enjoy it.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker A:Then when you're recalling being down there and it actually works to recharge you, how is that not real?
Speaker A:I do think that if it does,.
Speaker B:It's not, it's not the same recharge.
Speaker B:It's not a full battery recharge like when I'm there.
Speaker A:But it is something.
Speaker B:Something.
Speaker B:I, I, yeah, something get my battery to like 20 versus, you know, I can still use my phone, which is.
Speaker A:Better than being at zero.
Speaker B:No, I agree.
Speaker A:That's why that's not.
Speaker B:It's the reason why I started staying there.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker B:I only come here when it's absolutely vital.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When I got to be present in the moment and got to do things here.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm here when I'm not.
Speaker A:But the more, the more we visit, the more experiences we'll have to draw on to give us those boosts while we're in the city.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Because we, our job is to build the bridge.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:It's not going to paradise.
Speaker A:Isn't going to build itself.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:We still have to build it.
Speaker A:So in the meantime, we just use these experience to generate these pockets of.
Speaker A:Pockets of boost pockets of experience that we could draw upon to get us to where we could be there more permanently.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Where we have our own hobbit land.
Speaker A:I can't remember what the Hobbit.
Speaker A:Remember the hobbit city is called the Shire.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, man, it's amazing, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I want all of that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Have you listened and read those books?
Speaker A:Lord of the Rings?
Speaker B:You still.
Speaker B:The movies?
Speaker B:I tried.
Speaker B:I downloaded it and I tried it.
Speaker B:The books are not as they.
Speaker B:They talk a lot more.
Speaker B:It's just a lot of words.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Like long and drawn out.
Speaker A:You see the movies?
Speaker B:Yeah, all of them a bunch of times.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So you've seen the movies?
Speaker A:Yeah, I've seen both.
Speaker A:I, I've read.
Speaker A:I was like one of my favorite reads as high schooler.
Speaker B:I probably gotta just Hobbit all that get into it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was my.
Speaker A:Yeah, I really like Hobbit.
Speaker A:Like Harry Potter too.
Speaker A:But I think Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, that was like I was, I was in the trenches with those books.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we could do that.
Speaker B:No, just like, it's very doable.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Even more motivated to create the Shire on the land.
Speaker A:Even more than I was before.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm trying to think of any shy related things we could do next time.
Speaker A:It's probably pretty too soon.
Speaker A:Digging.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because you talked about digging out a cave, but maybe it's time.
Speaker B:Just need a backhoe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I do think what we, we, we haven't.
Speaker A:We didn't mention the necessity for art on the land as like a catalyst, but we haven't made like a formal call out yet.
Speaker B:A Hobbit house is art.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:So that's kind of why I'm like, okay, what can we, what can we actually do to accelerate what you and I both want?
Speaker A:And I'm like, okay, is it a formal call out for art on the land?
Speaker A:Maybe next time we go.
Speaker A:Was like, okay, well this is what we got, people.
Speaker A:Shoot the video, have some content and be like, if you're interested in collaborating, building the Shire, holler at us.
Speaker A:I'm not shooting ideas because I'm big on, you know, we both want this,.
Speaker B:So we need, I think we need like a.
Speaker B:We need to find somebody that's like a structural engineer.
Speaker B:Somebody that knows how to like mine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Dig a cave and not have it collapse in on you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and because I got some ideas, I know how it could be done potentially without having to worry about it.
Speaker B:Cave in us.
Speaker B:Which is like, I thought about just scooping out a whole side and then creating a roof and then putting a little bit of dirt on top of the roof.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Instead of like, there we go, a hole.
Speaker B:You know, making a fake roof for the cave.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that gives us access to like build a chimney, build a skylight, whatever we want to do, you know.
Speaker A:Structural engineer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So someone who, like a builder.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Someone who actually knows how to, you know, manipulate earth and materials to build structures.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is not me.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:But somebody could just give us, you know, game on.
Speaker B:What's the best way to go?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because that's what, that's what I'm getting is like, okay, well, we want this, but you and I are both getting better at, okay, what, what can we bring down and actually put in motion.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And also giving us something to think about next time we go down and potentially plan for and bring out there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because the more we take responsibility for manifesting what we want, the, the quicker it's going to be, you know, the Steps.
Speaker A:It's going to be just like a exponential growth as we continue, continue, continue, continue to lurch forward and take those steps.
Speaker A:And as more people see what we got going on and the podcast we shot on land with teemu, it's like that's, that's helping.
Speaker A:That's a lot because it's, it's putting what we got going on into the mainstream, you know, because we live in the dreamscape, in the godland.
Speaker A:You know, he's tapped in with reality and the resources infrastructure.
Speaker A:So worlds collided in that podcast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now people are.
Speaker A:We got people interested in that conversation.
Speaker A:Got people interested.
Speaker A:Now it's our job to take advantage of that momentum.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Take it to the next level.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Another idea I want to do is get a.
Speaker B:Know what you call them, but like the people that come out and survey the land and tell you exactly where the property lines are and what you own.
Speaker A:It's not a surveyor.
Speaker B:Surveyor.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know how much that cost, but I think that's within my budget right now just to get started with something.
Speaker A:So you just have your boundaries.
Speaker B:We have the.
Speaker B:What do you call it?
Speaker B:The parcel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so we.
Speaker B:The parcel is already being contested by neighbors.
Speaker B:You're saying this is mine?
Speaker A:How do you know?
Speaker B:Talk to the security guard down there.
Speaker B:He was telling me that.
Speaker B:So this is your part of the property.
Speaker B:Because this other guy was saying all this is his.
Speaker A:Okay, I got you.
Speaker A:So I guess that's what fences are for.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I guess having an understanding of what is yours is important before someone fences your.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Even flags, like I could just put up a post.
Speaker A:That's a good point.
Speaker B:You know, something that says this is from where?
Speaker B:Don't come past this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's funny that we're now, you know, because indigenous original people, like the whole content of land being yours is absurd.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But however we live in Rome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, you had to deal with the rules.
Speaker B:You got a room when you're in Rome.
Speaker A:You gotta roam when you're in Rome, bro.
Speaker A:So that means we can't be building multi million dollar structures on someone else's property.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Not a good idea.
Speaker B:We build, you know, we.
Speaker B:We section off and we figure out what's ours.
Speaker B:And then for all of us, there's no sense of ownership.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Once we.
Speaker A:Once we have our own boundaries.
Speaker A:But until.
Speaker A:Until we leave the Roman Empire, which isn't going to be any.
Speaker A:It's not going to be tomorrow.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:We got to deal with It.
Speaker A:You got to just follow the rules, deal with the structures, deal with the principalities, and evolve from our universe into that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then what I see happen is, like, what we.
Speaker A:What we got going on, we're gonna have motion like we talked about last time, and then the motion is gonna pull in more.
Speaker A:More land around it into its own universe.
Speaker A:And land can open up around it.
Speaker A:More resources, more people get pulled in and be pull it in.
Speaker A:And all of a sudden, it doesn't take long before Zion becomes the center.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And what I foresee happening as.
Speaker A:As whatever's going on with the world accelerates, Zion becomes stronger and more of a necessity.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because what I do see right now is gas is still expensive.
Speaker A:There has been an inside war is not going anywhere.
Speaker B:And it's getting worse.
Speaker A:It's getting a lot worse.
Speaker A:Food is getting more expensive, and people don't.
Speaker A:Can't find good jobs.
Speaker A:Regardless of what's being spoken like, it's bad out there.
Speaker B:It's bad.
Speaker A:It's very bad.
Speaker B:The people are losing their homes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And there's not a lot.
Speaker A:There's not a plan for what the rap.
Speaker A:The rapid disruption that AI is going to cause with jobs.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:And that's happening right now because people are realizing, oh, wow, this robot that I'm paying 20 bucks a month for does 14 jobs in one.
Speaker A:There's a cost to that.
Speaker A:And that cost is societal.
Speaker A:So what is happening is everyone's finessing with AI, including the bosses.
Speaker B:I had a conversation with a lady.
Speaker B:I was out there cooking, and she was telling me she's a movie producer, and she's asking me, how does.
Speaker B:How does she get started selling food on the corner?
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:She's like, I need to just.
Speaker B:I like, I know how to cook.
Speaker B:I need to, like, cook.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I'm like, come over here.
Speaker B:Let's work together.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:Figure out what you want to sell.
Speaker B:Let's do something.
Speaker A:Because the end of day, like, there's no robots cooking food.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker B:I mean, they're coming.
Speaker A:Of course it's coming.
Speaker A:It's not here right now.
Speaker B:But they can't stop us on the corner.
Speaker A:No, they sure can.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then people can decide whether they want to get the robot food or.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:But we see it coming.
Speaker A:So right now is the.
Speaker A:We put the fix in now.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker A:And not try to.
Speaker A:Not try to stop what's going on in Rome.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Like, we don't have any control over that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:But even the idea of trying to stop what they got going on is how they think.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:You know, we just go over here and do our own thing.
Speaker A:Thing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:You know, you don't fight fear and anger with fear and anger.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:You fight fear and anger with love.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And creativity.
Speaker B:Create a creativity.
Speaker A:That's love.
Speaker A:That's exactly.
Speaker A:And that's the.
Speaker A:That's the way forward.
Speaker A:Because anytime you get.
Speaker A:You think the way forward is stopping somebody, you're only gonna just put in motion things that are going to stop yourself.
Speaker A:They're going to try to stop you.
Speaker A:It's just like.
Speaker A:No, the best way forward is.
Speaker B:That's called starting the war.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:You know, so the best way forward is just moving forth in your creation and building the infrastructure and the systems to put forth your creation.
Speaker A:And if your creation is worthwhile, it'll be the one that's standing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:If it's not worth a better creation will supply people go to the other creation.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And you.
Speaker B:And you create, unlike we did in the past, we make sure that we're.
Speaker B:We have systems in place for the inevitable controversy that will come from our creation.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because we're creating against the.
Speaker A:The energy of the Roman Empire.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, know, back in the day, it was.
Speaker A:They burned it down.
Speaker A:We don't know what the resistance gonna look like, but it's going to happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And as we talked about before the podcast is a brother who's doing similar work with us, but also surrounded by white people.
Speaker A:So there's a lesson to be learned when you start doing things involving land and black people.
Speaker A:And there you start finding out there's a reason why the Klan existed along the Mississippi River.
Speaker A:It was to keep us away from fertile farmland.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So when you start doing things with land and black people, the spidey sense of the ruling wide authority will go up and they will do everything in their power to be like, oh, we stopping this?
Speaker B:He was talking about on one of his videos, his name is Axe.
Speaker B:I just had it too.
Speaker B:But he was talking about one of his videos, Land Development and Spiritual Warfare.
Speaker A:Oh, I didn't put that tune together.
Speaker A:I didn't realize it was that brother.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, he's on it now.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, welcome, bro.
Speaker B:He's like, it's spirits tied up into these lands.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's a real thing.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:You know, people's ancestors is buried here.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And they got powerful energies.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That's a mast.
Speaker A:There's a lot go.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And so you gotta.
Speaker B:You gotta.
Speaker B:Either you make peace with those energies or you combat them.
Speaker B:I'm a peacemaker, so, you know, I believe in making peace.
Speaker B:They might not be peaceful energies, man.
Speaker A:I didn't even think about.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's energies of like the people who were on the land before, but just when you start doing land work, you're gonna have to deal with the power of the people who run the world.
Speaker B:That too.
Speaker A:Like, so those energies.
Speaker A:It's a lot of energy.
Speaker A:It is energy work.
Speaker B:I was thinking about if the possibility of the mountain on my land being a pyramid.
Speaker B:That means that there was something here, a civilization here.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:There's trillions of years of track record on all land in the usa, bro.
Speaker B:All over the planet.
Speaker A:All over the planet.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's a lot of history.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:In planet Earth.
Speaker A:And the trillions years of planet Earth, bro.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Something was there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I, When I go to the land, I see all of the rocks on top of rocks.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, that's not.
Speaker A:How.
Speaker A:How do they get there?
Speaker A:And what you and I both know is that the.
Speaker A:The southwestern desert landscape, there's a spiritual quality with that, that it's not a coincidence that, you know, there's quote unquote UFO sightings in that area a lot.
Speaker A:There's not a coincidence that Roswell is in the same Southwest United.
Speaker A:It's not a coincidence that the messenger lived in Phoenix, that Elrod Hubbard had his most spiritual like teachings in Phoenix.
Speaker B:Farrakhan had his spiritual in.
Speaker B:In Mexico.
Speaker A:In Mexico.
Speaker A:This part of.
Speaker A:This part of the Earth.
Speaker A:There's something going on here that allows for that and where we've established the base of healing operations in that.
Speaker A:And that's Allah and, And it's for a reason.
Speaker A:Because there's something to be tapped into and we're tapping into it.
Speaker A:And you and I both feel that when we go to the land and get rebooted, recharged, and ultimately just accelerated to the next level.
Speaker A:And to be fair, since the last time we went there, we're in another level with everything in life, business, store, all of it.
Speaker A:Yeah, another level, bro.
Speaker A:Not good or bad.
Speaker B:It's just like even, even the amount of people, like, I, I often look at it like the movie The Matrix where Mr. Smith was just like turning into people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I look at it like not necessarily people are turning into me, but they're like seeing it from my perspective.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:Go on with that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I have the most random Conversations with people I just meet, and they're already land development separating.
Speaker B:Like, they're all on board.
Speaker B:And it didn't feel this way even last year.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, not at all.
Speaker B:You know, not at all.
Speaker B:You want to live in the middle of nowhere?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You sound nuts.
Speaker A:No, it's real.
Speaker B:And in this year's live in the middle of nowhere, how can I be down?
Speaker A:That energy is real.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And now I'm like, okay, how do we.
Speaker A:How do we pitch this clear necessity in a way where we could show there's opportunity, you know, because what I told.
Speaker A:What I've communicated is anytime you're selling a product that's pro survival, you're going to win.
Speaker A:So all you have to do is communicate your.
Speaker A:Your product as being the most pro survival option, and people will throw money at it.
Speaker B:From.
Speaker A:From the very money flows towards points of pro survival activity.
Speaker B:From the very beginning, one of the things that I've always liked, like, wanted to do, and I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do it, but this is what I wanted to do.
Speaker B:I want to get started.
Speaker B:I want to show progress.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't want to ask people to help me get started.
Speaker B:Like, once I'm started, I want people to come to me.
Speaker B:If you build it, they will come.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, I don't want to, like, be unsuccessful with other people's money.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:But you don't think we've started?
Speaker B:Not really.
Speaker B:I think we're talking.
Speaker A:I think this is about the land.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, gotcha.
Speaker B:This is a positive thing to do.
Speaker B:Like, talk about the things you want to do.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker B:But we made different.
Speaker A:There's a project.
Speaker A:There's a project schematic, bro.
Speaker A:Like, you don't think that's starting.
Speaker A:That's not starting yet.
Speaker B:When you breaking ground, you're starting.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker A:Okay, well, there's plans.
Speaker A:You got to have a blueprint before you break around.
Speaker B:That's my point.
Speaker B:This is all positive.
Speaker B:It's going in the right direction.
Speaker A:So you're just saying built starting as a start until you've taken the blueprint and made it reality.
Speaker B:Like, the gun ain't shot on the race yet.
Speaker B:Right now we're just talking about running and stretching.
Speaker B:That's real talk, you know?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So with the store we started, that's.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:We've got a year in there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, that's real.
Speaker B:You know that.
Speaker B:That business is making money.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, we don't.
Speaker B:The help that we need is different from the help that we need on the land.
Speaker A:No, it's different projects, but it's the same ecosystem.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it will align.
Speaker B:I wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't going to align.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So I mean.
Speaker B:Yeah, we got to make both work.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And we have to like.
Speaker A:It's just symbiotic relationship.
Speaker A:We have to develop symbiotic relationship with our coexisting infrastructure.
Speaker A:So that way the successful one bleeds into the other one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then we like.
Speaker A:It's just like taking water from this well and then going over here and watering the land with that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So because what, what we got, what we have going on, it is.
Speaker A:We are open regardless of what's happening.
Speaker A:Everything.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:We're open every day, bro.
Speaker A:So it's a success.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now in order for that success to be permanent, long lasting, just systems.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:What are the systems of permanence?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's where we are.
Speaker A:Because it's one thing to have activity, but activity without a system underneath it is just a spiral of chaos.
Speaker A:And you may have some wins, but it's not sustainable.
Speaker A:Everyone caught up in that world will spiral out.
Speaker B:I mean, right.
Speaker A:You go in the world when you're like, oh, this is fun, this is fun, you get spit out.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's a great concept.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's needed.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it has all the bones to be something amazing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:But without professionalism, without like, you know, we got to take it to the next level.
Speaker A:We have to.
Speaker B:It's nice.
Speaker A:I think it's perfect.
Speaker A:It's professional systems.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That is it.
Speaker A:Structure, order, compliance with local authority, everything that comes with running a business.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's just what it is.
Speaker A:We have to, we're growing into that and we're.
Speaker B:And if we're not doing that, we're not doing business.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:So if we're not going to do.
Speaker A:Business, then what are we doing?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What are we doing?
Speaker A:Well, at that point you're doing performance art, so.
Speaker A:Performance art.
Speaker A:But shows end.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, business should be everlasting.
Speaker B:Everlasting.
Speaker A:Everlasting.
Speaker A:So especially vital businesses, pro survival businesses.
Speaker A:Which is what.
Speaker A:Providing food to a food desert is a very vital business.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we just had to establish.
Speaker A:And we've talked about this, but now it's just, we're starting to see that like with these different projects, like where, where one is where the other one is and.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We don't want one to falter because we didn't do the systems were required.
Speaker A:And then we have to take the lessons from the one that's more developed and apply down here at this level.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So that's what I mean by symbiotic relationship is like they, they, they affect each other and they relate to each other and then they benefit from each other's success.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we take the lessons learned over here with the more developed project and apply.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, remember we did that.
Speaker A:Let's do the systems now.
Speaker A:Let's not just run around.
Speaker A:And the thing about San Diego, it's far away.
Speaker A:We can't afford to just run around and do random shit.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:You know, so now it's like, okay, we know that the, this is speaking to people who have land in random ass places in the United States that have random desert.
Speaker A:But that's good on paper.
Speaker A:But if you don't have a plan to building that to something viable and pro survival, you're really just using that as like.
Speaker A:It's kind of like a, A dream.
Speaker B:This a dream.
Speaker A:It's a dream.
Speaker A:Like, I'm trying to think a not so crude way of like a dream masturbation.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Where you just.
Speaker A:This is probably a better way to say that's what came to my mind.
Speaker A:It's like you're just like, oh, well, you're just masturbating with this dream.
Speaker A:But you have no.
Speaker A:Yeah, for real.
Speaker A:But you have no, you have no intention or plan to make it reality.
Speaker A:So you just use this one piece of land that you have out in the middle of Arizona to make yourself feel better when you're stuck in the middle of Compton.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's a lot of people.
Speaker B:I got friends that, that's all they want to talk to me about.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Why are you not talking about the land more?
Speaker B:It's like I do talk about it a lot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I don't, I don't talk about it with people that I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because there's no point.
Speaker B:I talk about it with people who are actually wanting to help me build it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, people who actually have vision for what I'm trying to do.
Speaker B:I don't, I don't care to just talk about it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, that's not fun to me.
Speaker A:That's not, that's not fun.
Speaker B:There's no point.
Speaker A:It's not productive.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's not.
Speaker A:We don't need more daydreaming and master.
Speaker A:We need production activity plans and then steps that we could take to get there.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, exactly.
Speaker A:And we know that a lot will back us because, you know, we're in the time of Joshua, when Joshua in the Bible was go and take it.
Speaker A:That's what literally, Joshua was just, this is all yours.
Speaker A:Go out there and get it now.
Speaker A:They had to put in work.
Speaker A:No, you had to kill everybody.
Speaker A:In the book of Joshua is them going out, slaughtering everyone and just taking what's going on.
Speaker A:That's not.
Speaker A:I'm not saying that's we're gonna do.
Speaker A:I'm just saying we have to have the attitude of it's ours for the taking.
Speaker B:We're not colonizers.
Speaker A:Yeah, not at all.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:No, you know, we.
Speaker B:We have been given a great blessing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we should maximize on it.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:You know, maximize.
Speaker A:But also, like, not shy away from, like, you know, it is a blessing, and then if we play it right, we'll get more blessings, and we know that Allah will clear out the brush.
Speaker B:Yeah, but.
Speaker A:But we have to go to where the brush is so he could clear it out for us.
Speaker B:We gotta take one step towards him so he can take two steps towards us.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And clear the brush.
Speaker A:And you may get some prickles when you go in there at first, but he's got you.
Speaker A:But if you're not walking forward, there's nothing for him to do because you're not progressing.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:It's making me view money as.
Speaker A:It's a tool.
Speaker A:And I had this just cognition or just realization that, like, okay, well, if I've got a little bit of money available to me right now, the most powerful thing I do is just give it to Alana's service and then watch it come.
Speaker A:It's gonna come back to me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's where.
Speaker A:I think that's where faith becomes practical.
Speaker A:When you start doing things like that, whether it's when you're cooking and feeding the homeless or when you just.
Speaker A:You just give first and trust that Allah will bring it back tenfold.
Speaker A:Tenfold.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:But you have to take that step.
Speaker A:And that's where, you know, I do think people that would distinguishes, you know, Joe Smos from the minister is like, they live in that step.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, if I got it, it goes back to Allah.
Speaker A:It goes back just recycling.
Speaker A:Which means that if you've got something that Allah gave you, you got to figure out a way to just take that energy and put it back out there to Cut to.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:It's like a really, like a wave.
Speaker A:Like it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just like to put it back out so it can come back and you're.
Speaker A:You should always be in flow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Money should be in flow.
Speaker A:Money should be used to bring in more.
Speaker B:For what?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And I'm talking to all of us because like, we all have the attitude of like, I just got it, I want to let it go, but we just gotta put it back out there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not awesome.
Speaker A:Something reckless, but just put it back out there and something in alignment with a lot with.
Speaker A:It could be some charity, it could be something else, but just.
Speaker A:Or in your own business or in yourself.
Speaker A:Self development.
Speaker A:And then know that if.
Speaker A:If your intention is pure and it's with him that he's.
Speaker A:It's going to come back around.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's hard to practice that when you don't have a lot of flow when you have very little.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But when you have little flow, you really have to be of more of that mindset because you have to generate that motion.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And I'm talking to myself too because I'm getting.
Speaker A:I'm getting pretty good at like.
Speaker A:Okay, well I've got a little.
Speaker A:Let me just put it out there.
Speaker B:And then the less you have, the more valuable it is to you.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:The more you have to pay attention to it.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Like you got you.
Speaker B:The more you have.
Speaker B:You'll be a little bit frivolous.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's a trap.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You got to stay in motion.
Speaker B:Like you.
Speaker A:But how do we apply this to, you know, you know, land?
Speaker A:Like not hoarding the land.
Speaker A:I do think it's using the land and providing opportunities for those.
Speaker A:Like what you've already done, like bringing boys out to the land and doing something, bringing them out there, bringing other people out there, having.
Speaker A:Giving them this experience.
Speaker A:That way they talk to their network and we make content and then it goes back out there.
Speaker A:You get what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And I, we.
Speaker A:Because we can't just.
Speaker A:My land.
Speaker A:No one.
Speaker A:That's what, that's what the world is.
Speaker A:It's like people think it's mine.
Speaker A:There's no.
Speaker A:You don't own the land, bro.
Speaker B:No, it's not a real thing.
Speaker A:Property ownership is not real.
Speaker A:It is a construct.
Speaker A:It is a concept.
Speaker A:It's a game, bro.
Speaker B:Even property is not real.
Speaker B:I was explaining to somebody, like, we live in these houses and we think that like, like this is like a real thing, but it's just a bunch of trees that they cut down, and it's like, slowly dying.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And, like, you know, animals are living in our walls and we don't know about it.
Speaker B:Like, this is.
Speaker B:Do we live outside?
Speaker B:We just have fooled ourselves into believing that we live indoors.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:All of it is an illusion.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a.
Speaker A:It's an agreement that we have with each other.
Speaker A:Like, this is.
Speaker A:Okay, this is.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We agree to conduct our lives and have things in property.
Speaker A:And this is mine.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We agree to these things.
Speaker A:You know, and this.
Speaker A:I will say that a lot of these agreements do come with the fact they're Roman agreements, the Roman Empire agreements.
Speaker A:Like, okay, this is.
Speaker A:Oh, this is the game we're playing now.
Speaker A:Okay, this is mine.
Speaker A:I'm gonna fight you for yours and take yours.
Speaker A:When I think that the most objective is like, everything and everything is everyone's.
Speaker B:None of it.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And if.
Speaker A:If everything.
Speaker A:If everything is all law and we're all law, it's like, what is mine and what is yours?
Speaker A:You know, that.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:Where is the separation?
Speaker B:Where is the dividing line?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:But not everyone has that, obviously, in this world.
Speaker A:Not everyone has that mentality, so.
Speaker B:And the hoarders make it hard for everybody.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:That's just what it is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But, you know, we.
Speaker B:We don't worry about them.
Speaker A:And also the calculation was don't try to stop them either.
Speaker A:You know, don't.
Speaker A:Don't place your energy in trying to stop that.
Speaker A:Like, that's a waste of time.
Speaker B:Don't worry about it.
Speaker A:Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker A:Focus your energy on your creation, what.
Speaker B:You are creating, your intent on your.
Speaker A:Intention, and what you intend to create.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker A:I think that's like the operating maximum of the universe is like, we.
Speaker A:One can say that it survived.
Speaker A:I think a step up is no, create.
Speaker A:You know, survival is like bare minimum.
Speaker A:It's like breaking even.
Speaker A:No, no, we didn't come here to break even.
Speaker A:We came here to create more of God.
Speaker B:Yeah, to.
Speaker A:To have the best God experience and to be more of God.
Speaker A:So let's create.
Speaker A:And that is the way forward.
Speaker A:Which is also why we know art is the physical manifestation of everything's creation.
Speaker A:But art is like, when people the most.
Speaker A:We'll call it the most tangible example of creation.
Speaker A:And that's why we said it's necessary for us to tap into that.
Speaker A:To art specifically, to function as the vanguard and the spearhead for what we must do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because that is just an example of the work that needs to get done, because we have to create our own infrastructure for healing because they don't exist.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So let's use something that's fire.
Speaker A:Let's use fire art to promote our campaign and our intention to get our.
Speaker A:All of our people thinking with the wavelength of.
Speaker A:Let's be creative and create solutions.
Speaker A:Let's help these brothers create solutions.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We got to figure out how to communicate that vision, too.
Speaker A:I think we are, bro.
Speaker A:I think it's a matter of, you know, this.
Speaker A:This podcast, you know, content and just.
Speaker A:It could be more, know, drawings, paintings,.
Speaker B:And finding, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, drawings, paintings, but, like, also finding a way to, like, attract artists.
Speaker B:The ones who can do, like, stone work and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And metal work.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, you know, structures.
Speaker A:Structure.
Speaker A:No, like, engineers and artists.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:These are the very practical form.
Speaker A:Artwork.
Speaker B:Architects.
Speaker B:Those are.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:How do we attract those?
Speaker B:That's the question.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes, that's my point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We find the right avenue for attracting those types of people.
Speaker B:We got to find the medium.
Speaker A:Instagram.
Speaker A:But I'm just like.
Speaker A:I'm being very, very specific.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We do Instagram, but I'm like, how do we target those people on Instagram?
Speaker A:Is what I'm asking us.
Speaker A:Well, who?
Speaker B:Like, yeah, you know, I think there are people in that world that we gotta figure out how to tap into.
Speaker B:And I think that.
Speaker B:Yeah, okay, Instagram is.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker A:Do I.
Speaker A:Do we send an email to an arc?
Speaker A:I mean, is it as simple as just, like, looking up architecture schools and being like, hey, we got this lamp we're looking for?
Speaker B:I think that's awkward.
Speaker B:So what I.
Speaker B:What I usually.
Speaker B:Let me explain.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:What I usually do is I go on there and see if they have art that I like, and I'll.
Speaker A:Or insert.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:Well, anybody.
Speaker B:Like, any.
Speaker B:If they have something that I'm interested in, I make an effort to pay attention to what they're doing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Comment.
Speaker B:You know, play the long game.
Speaker B:Like, be genuinely interested.
Speaker B:If I'm not interested, what's the point of what we're doing?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, so, like, you communicate.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You start the bridge of communication.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you let them know, communicate.
Speaker B:I like what you're doing, you know?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:How can.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:Eventually you can get to a point where you can.
Speaker B:Where you.
Speaker B:You ask them, like, I'm doing this thing.
Speaker B:Would you be interested?
Speaker B:Yeah, but I mean, I also think that there's a way that we can.
Speaker B:Like, there's.
Speaker B:There's maybe an artist who has connections with other artists, and we find that person and they be the ones to communicate.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, I think it's just a matter of finding the right medium.
Speaker A:But what I'm getting is, what we always come back to is we gotta communicate.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:And all the communication.
Speaker A:Communication like, you.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And that doesn't have to be only on Instagram.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:And I would say, like, I don't think going riding in an architecture school and being like, hey, we've got.
Speaker A:We got this land.
Speaker A:We're looking for people.
Speaker B:I'm looking for somebody that's special.
Speaker B:I'm looking for somebody that.
Speaker B:That wows me.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:And so I want what's done down there to be special, you know?
Speaker B:And I wanted to feel.
Speaker A:And you don't think special people aren't in school?
Speaker B:It's not that I don't feel like special people are in school.
Speaker B:I feel like we might get anybody in school.
Speaker B:Like, I need to see bodies of work.
Speaker A:No, I see.
Speaker A:You know, at least Instagram you got pictures.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:People.
Speaker B:I mean, I've been fresh out of school, you know, People coming fresh out of school.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You could be very talented.
Speaker B:Coming fresh out of school don't mean you know what you're doing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that means you just gotta.
Speaker A:You gotta search.
Speaker A:We gotta look up architecture.
Speaker B:I feel like it'll come.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I get all kinds of things on my.
Speaker B:My for you page.
Speaker B:My thing.
Speaker B:My algorithm is nuts.
Speaker A:I can only imagine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They can't pinpoint who I am and what I want.
Speaker B:They just.
Speaker B:Everything.
Speaker A:It's a lot.
Speaker A:Some Gemini.
Speaker B:Well, I make sure it's like that, too.
Speaker B:I do that on purpose.
Speaker B:I like random shit.
Speaker A:Just use, like, a tornado of chaos and activity around you.
Speaker B:I like options.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you're gonna.
Speaker B:You're gonna entertain me, give me some things to go through, if I'm getting all the same food shit, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm turning my phone down, like.
Speaker B:And that happened to me at some point.
Speaker B:It was like everything was food on my page.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:Just because I call myself Chef, I mean, don't mean that's all I'm interested.
Speaker B:So it's like.
Speaker B:I mean, I make a conscious effort to not just, like, a bunch of food items.
Speaker A:Oh, I see.
Speaker A:It's also like the.
Speaker A:The algorithm is like.
Speaker A:It's not just stuff you like.
Speaker A:It's stuff you, like, spend more than two seconds looking at, you know, so, so very smart.
Speaker B:I'll watch a whole shark video just to.
Speaker B:Just to send me some more shark videos.
Speaker A:I got gator videos now, bro.
Speaker A:I've got gator.
Speaker A:This week was gators.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Gator wrestling.
Speaker A:And it's been.
Speaker A:No, it's.
Speaker A:I mean, it's been pretty cool.
Speaker A:I like, I'm not mad at it, bro.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They're smart.
Speaker A:They're like, there's a reason why this brother stopped for more than one second.
Speaker A:Okay, let's give him some more of that.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:It's a diabolical science.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And they're listening to us right now.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:We're talking about all this architecture for you page.
Speaker B:They know what they're doing.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Okay, maybe that's it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Is actually going to builders and seeing what's going on.
Speaker A:And then, you know, if we have the bodies of work or what we got going on on our page, then I was even thinking, then make it more realistic for them to reach out to us or want to communicate.
Speaker B:One.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:A tangible.
Speaker B:Next time we go down there, we take some pictures of the rock formations.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:And we'll be like, you know, can you do something with this?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Do you have any ideas, any concepts?
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, it's pretty good.
Speaker B:Tangible.
Speaker A:That's a tangible.
Speaker A:I'm just trying to think what, what could we offer them?
Speaker A:Like, what.
Speaker A:What would make them want to do it?
Speaker A:Does it.
Speaker A:Would it just be for art's sake?
Speaker B:I mean, immortalize themselves?
Speaker B:Okay, we could offer them something if we want to.
Speaker A:Or could it just be like someone sees like that and just like is intrigued by it and it's like, well, I want to be a part of that.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:Like there's.
Speaker B:There's art installations all over the world.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Like, like, like if you do something good, you will be Stonehenge in a thousand years.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or Mount Rushmore.
Speaker A:I don't know how that started.
Speaker B:I mean like a genuine artist ain't really tripping off like that's real.
Speaker B:You know, they want to do the art.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like, remember the art.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Cuz I. I do think it's just one.
Speaker A:Having art installations all on the property.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's just an awesome concept.
Speaker A:That's a really dope concept that we're all in alignment with now.
Speaker A:I just think it's pulling in those artists.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Reaching out, communicating, finding what we like and just being like, okay, getting content of all the dough okay.
Speaker A:Next time, getting content of all the fly stuff on the line, you know, as much as we can be like, yo, we got.
Speaker B:I said we just corner off a section of the land and just explore, find dope in that area.
Speaker B:That'll be, you know, this month, the next month, we find another area.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:I like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like that a lot.
Speaker B:I got a little drone, too.
Speaker B:We could.
Speaker B:We could fly it.
Speaker A:Get a drone.
Speaker B:Cheap one.
Speaker B:I got like 50 drone.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:But I used it and it works.
Speaker B:I bought it about three, four months ago, took it down to the land with me.
Speaker B:It was the trip right before you.
Speaker B:I went with you for the first time.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:For that next time.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, cool.
Speaker B:Yeah, it works.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Takes your video.
Speaker B:Yeah, I. I haven't downloaded the video or anything like that.
Speaker B:It's still on the drone, but.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:How do you know it has good video?
Speaker B:I can look at it.
Speaker B:It has a screen on it.
Speaker A:Oh, cool.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Cuz, you know, as gods, we have to be able to make soup with what we got.
Speaker A:And as chefs, you know, we got to just.
Speaker A:We have to make the soup with all the ingredients.
Speaker A:We got, like, a beautiful.
Speaker A:A good chef is one who could just see, go on a kitchen, be like, okay, well, we got this.
Speaker A:I'm gonna make something.
Speaker A:I'm gonna make the best tasting possible thing with what I've got in the kitchen.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I feel that that's where we are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Not just with the land, with the stores.
Speaker A:Like, okay, we have.
Speaker A:We have a lot of ingredients.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:How do we.
Speaker A:What is the system of.
Speaker A:What is the process and system that we need to do to combine these ingredients to create the best product right now?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:While knowing that if you make.
Speaker A:If we just get in the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The process of creation, we're going to be able to pull in better and more ingredients.
Speaker B:If you build it, they will come.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:A chef is an artist.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It's a very important artist.
Speaker A:It is a very practical artist because they are the architects and artists of.
Speaker A:Behind the food.
Speaker A:We eat.
Speaker B:Healing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Healers.
Speaker B:When you think about the essential.
Speaker A:No, really?
Speaker A:For real, bro.
Speaker A:So we land and food.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We've locked down the essentials.
Speaker B:Food, clothing, and shelter.
Speaker A:Yeah, we've locked that.
Speaker A:We've locked down the essentials.
Speaker A:Now we're, like, talking about more.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:More exotic counseling, auditing.
Speaker B:On the last podcast I did with tamu, I mentioned food, clothing, and shelter.
Speaker B:My brother, my mom, and me.
Speaker B:I forgot to mention my sister Education her.
Speaker A:Oh, that's right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's vital too, man.
Speaker B:Angelina Julia's getting into clothing too, so, like, yeah.
Speaker A:Designing or hustling?
Speaker B:She got garments.
Speaker B:She's.
Speaker B:She's beastie.
Speaker A:She knows how to.
Speaker A:Wait.
Speaker A:She's making garments?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, manufacturing garments.
Speaker B:Designing and manufacturing.
Speaker B:My mom got her going.
Speaker A:Okay, so your.
Speaker A:Your sister knows how to make.
Speaker B:They were selling them at Savior's Day last year, bro.
Speaker A:Does your mom know how to, like.
Speaker A:Does she still sell, like, now?
Speaker B:Yeah, when she got to.
Speaker B:She get down.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:But she.
Speaker B:She mass produces, so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, she don't really.
Speaker A:I forget, like, you know, mgt.
Speaker A:Like, they.
Speaker A:They're trained for God.
Speaker A:I didn't even calculate that as, like.
Speaker A:So your mom can make her own.
Speaker A:Your mom can make a garment.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:With her bare hands.
Speaker A:That's bad.
Speaker A:That's all.
Speaker A:I. I mean, obviously it's obvious, but now I'm like, oh, wow.
Speaker A:I forget that they actually have real.
Speaker A:They can cook too.
Speaker B:All of that.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Man.
Speaker A:No, these are all very vital and essential skill sets.
Speaker A:And I think, you know, I. I take that for.
Speaker A:I've taken that for granted because I'm.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:We're always looking at the next level.
Speaker A:What do we got to layer in now?
Speaker B:But I'm like, it's already baked into what I like.
Speaker B:Once we down there and we're growing food.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Food secured.
Speaker B:Growing our clothes.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:All we do is grow the fabric.
Speaker B:Hey, mom is in the system.
Speaker B:Even with the.
Speaker B:With the.
Speaker B:With the.
Speaker B:The shelter idea.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:If we get down there and we get started, we carve out like ten caves.
Speaker B:Yo.
Speaker B:Fine.
Speaker B:Can you bring your crew down here and make these in the dope ass, like, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's baked into the system.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Cage Pro, I think that's it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:It's low key.
Speaker A:It's tactical.
Speaker A:Like I.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:We could dig and you can't.
Speaker B:You can't burn up a cave.
Speaker B:You can't burn up a cave.
Speaker B:Okay, I'll take another cave.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Oh, there's so much.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, it's just infinite dirt below you mountain.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Okay, yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:No, I see it.
Speaker A:This is just us just exploring with our.
Speaker A:Our minds.
Speaker A:But not even.
Speaker B:Yeah, bro, we're outside playing in the dirt.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Just playing in the dirt.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Get mad if you want to.
Speaker B:I'm over here having a good time,.
Speaker A:And we've got, you know, just like the concept of healing.
Speaker A:Like, you can auditing, sauna.
Speaker A:Even, like, you know, you and I are both doing acupuncture and chiropractic.
Speaker A:Like, we have the formula right now.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Oh, man, I'm about to sneeze, but I think about to go away.
Speaker A:But it's not a coincidence that, you know, today I had my first acupuncture appointment, and just from one, like, the.
Speaker A:I'm not used to being this relaxed, bro.
Speaker B:I hit the meridian points.
Speaker A:Like, what?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's not tired.
Speaker A:It's just like, my body is relaxed, and I'm like, how much of my life has I just been in default?
Speaker A:Fight or flight?
Speaker B:Pent up.
Speaker A:Pent up.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And have you done the cupping yet?
Speaker A:Not yet.
Speaker B:Cupping is crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's painful.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:Especially because you've never done it.
Speaker B:It gets easier the more you've done it.
Speaker B:But the.
Speaker B:The release and the.
Speaker B:When they take the cups off, it's like, oh, okay.
Speaker A:So I am.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's suction on your skin, I imagine it's.
Speaker A:Oh, man, that feels delicious.
Speaker B:It pulls the muscle, holds it there for, like, 10 minutes.
Speaker B:Minutes.
Speaker A:It feels amazing.
Speaker B:And then you release it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Because all this stuff, what I'm learning, it just seems like it's releasing tension and pressure.
Speaker A:The pressure of being up under the Roman Empire.
Speaker B:Like, this is like malfalia underneath the skin.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It just is just stagnant.
Speaker B:Just stuck and just loosens you up.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's like.
Speaker B:It's like you're a rubber band that's just been stretched.
Speaker A:That's a good way.
Speaker A:That's what I feel like.
Speaker A:I feel like I'm rubber band, and.
Speaker B:It's just like, Loosens the rubber band.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And then, you know, with that, if you're more flexible or malleable, you could deal with whatever comes here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's why, like, I go twice every other week.
Speaker A:I'm saying, bro, I'm gonna be going three times.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go acupuncture today, acupuncture on Thursday, chiropractor on Friday.
Speaker A:It's about to be three times a week, bro.
Speaker A:It's about to be.
Speaker A:Go down.
Speaker A:It's gonna go down.
Speaker A:It just keeps getting better and better.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I'm like, we're gonna keep riding this and then keep going to the land.
Speaker A:And we're.
Speaker A:We're showing our people specifically, who are just caught in the rat race or just in the.
Speaker A:The psychology of lack is like.
Speaker A:No, it's.
Speaker A:It is pertinent that we take Care of ourselves, you know, And Allah will provide you a lane if you just choose it, you know, you still can't.
Speaker A:You can't drop everything.
Speaker A:You still got to have.
Speaker A:What I'm learning is, you know, taking the time to be still and heal a lot will then put things in your path to support that effort.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we don't, we don't have to make our lives difficult.
Speaker B:We just do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, if we want to make it more seamless, more streamlined, it's just about putting in systems.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We just, you know, we're so used to doing things the hard way, as my wife would say.
Speaker A:But there's power.
Speaker A:The power and simplicity.
Speaker A:Like, systems don't have to be complex, bro.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:You know, cleaning your room is not complex.
Speaker A:Cleaning your kitchen is not complex.
Speaker A:Cleaning the kitchen store is not complex.
Speaker A:It's only complex if you don't avoid, if you don't confront it.
Speaker A:You know, pig bills like everything.
Speaker A:Like there's just.
Speaker A:As long as there's a system behind.
Speaker A:Becomes doable.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And as long as there's bodies behind that system, it becomes doable.
Speaker A:But the thing about a system is systems require operators.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:People have to be responsible for each thing.
Speaker A:One person can't beat a system.
Speaker A:That's not a system.
Speaker A:That's a dictatorship.
Speaker A:And that's something that's self defeating.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:And we all have had experiences in our life where we tried to be the dictator of something and ultimately it didn't work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Whether it's a relationship, whether it's a business, but that's a school project.
Speaker A:It's like it doesn't, it'll, it'll deflate.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you'll run around in circles.
Speaker A:So instead of going through that, and I think we've all gone through different variations of that.
Speaker A:Let's work together and create a system or find the ones that are willing to work together and create that system with them and then pull in your creativity to create that system.
Speaker A:And don't try to stop anyone who's against the system.
Speaker A:Just do what you got to do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and communicate the system.
Speaker B:Communication is key.
Speaker A:Communication is key.
Speaker A:Communicate the system you create, Implement this system and pull in the things that you needed to have your system be viable.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That is the way forward, sir.
Speaker A:And we know that now it's really.
Speaker A:Allah is going to force us to apply because now we're at a point where we require systems.
Speaker A:Our, our survival and our success depends.
Speaker B:Upon it was always inevitable.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:So now you know, we, we had to.
Speaker B:You don't, you don't build a system when you don't have anything to build it around.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:So now we have something that needs a system.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we got to figure out that system.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And that's our job.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And with that rise above emotion into the thinking of God and build from that plane.
Speaker A:Because if you build a system with your emotions back into the cake, you're going to be making decisions that aren't for the best of the whole or the best of the community or the best of anybody.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker A:So I think it is incumbent upon those who have the ability to rise above the thing and the thing you've got rise above emotion the thing you've got to take responsibility for building the architecture of that system.
Speaker B:Agreed.
Speaker B:So it behooves us.
Speaker A:It does.
Speaker A:So that's what we're doing.
Speaker A:That's what we're going to continue to do.
Speaker A:And we're going to continue to communicate these systems and then pull in those who not even say like minded people who just aren't antagonistic to it.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then those who are tagging this like we're not going to stop you.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:You know, we're just going to create and that's the way forward.
Speaker A:Creation, love.
Speaker B:Unity is love.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And you can't with love of creation.
Speaker A:Unity is the default because you're not.
Speaker A:You're going to find reasons to want to bring in people.
Speaker A:You know, it's attractive.
Speaker A:Destruction, hatred, the negative.
Speaker A:It repel, it repels.
Speaker A:It pushes people away.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That energy.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's bad energy.
Speaker A:It's very bad energy.
Speaker A:So we have to be the.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:We just have to be the clean, the clean glass.
Speaker B:Attractive.
Speaker A:Attractive, clean, worldly, magnetic, systematic.
Speaker A:And then pull in what needs to get done.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then everything else is not in alignment.
Speaker A:It's going to take care of itself.
Speaker A:And that's the beautiful thing about a system.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Indeed.
Speaker A:I think that's it, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:More closing remarks.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I feel, I feel like I got it off.
Speaker B:No disease are pulling me hard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, heavy.
Speaker A:Heavy is the ac, is the acupuncture.
Speaker A:Like I, it's hard for me to actually move.
Speaker A:It's a different type of tired, man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:Oh, it's not even tired.
Speaker A:It's just like.
Speaker B:I'm tired.
Speaker B:You might not be tired.
Speaker B:I've been lifting deep fryers all I'M tired.
Speaker A:Yeah, you are hard at labor.
Speaker B:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:Well, close this out in prayer then.
Speaker A:Dear brother Muhammad.
Speaker B:With pleasure, sir.
Speaker B:Bismillah Rahman Rahim Alhamdulillah.
Speaker B:We beseech your help and action.
Speaker B:Mercy.
Speaker B:We believe in you.
Speaker B:We trust in you for all that we need.
Speaker B:We are helpers in your cause.
Speaker B:And with your apostle, please grant to us success.
Speaker B:Thank you, Allah.
Speaker B:We cannot thank you enough.
Speaker B:Ameen.
Speaker A:Ameen.
Speaker A:O Allah, thank you for guiding our pros tonight.
Speaker A:Guiding our words.
Speaker A:Give us the power to build systems that exude you to move forth in the name of unity.
Speaker A:In the practice of unity and to rise above emotion is the thinking of you so we can activate your will into our doingness and do what it is which you have called us for to do.
Speaker A:As we build thy kingdom, we love and serve you alone.
Speaker A:I mean.
